Payn de Turberville
(-Aft 1130)

 

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Spouses/Children:
Asar ferch Morgan

Payn de Turberville, 1st Lord of Coyty

  • Married: After 1093
  • Died: After 1130

  General Notes:

Compiler's 24 x great-grandfather

  Research Notes:

Coyty was granted by Fitzhamon to Sir Pagan or Payne de Turberville, a knight, who probably held Bere-Turberville and other lands in Dorset, and the manor and castle of Crickhowel in Monmouthshire...

Sir Pagan de Turberville was probably the son of a knight of that name who won the manor of Crickhowel under Bernard Newmarch. He followed Fitzhamon into Glamorgan, and added Coyty to his paternal inheritance.... In 1126 he witnessed a convention between Bishop Urban and Robert the Consul of Gloucester; and in 1130, the foundation-charter of Neath Abbey; and about the same time, a gift of lands to Margam by Hugh, son of Robert de Llancarvan.... 2

  Marriage Information:

Payn married Asar ferch Morgan, daughter of Morgan ap Gruffydd, after 1093.

  Marriage Notes:

There are different versions concerning the wife of Payn de Turbeville, versions which nonetheless converge in a common ancestor.

1) "Pain Turberville" was granted "the lordship of Coetty…by marriage with Asar daughter of Meurug, son of Grufudd son of Iestin son of Gwrgan" by Robert FitzHamon after the death of Rhys ap Tewdwr in 1093. 1

2) Sir Pagan de Turberville ... is reputed to have married Sybil, daughter of and heiress of Morgan ap Jestyn, whose name is preserved in the meadow of Siblewick, given by her to Neath Abbey. 2

3) After his overthrow, Sir Pain Turberville married, according to Caradoc, his [Iestyn's] great-grand-daughter,—namely, Asar, or Sarah, the daughter of Meryg, the son of Griffith, the son of Iestyn; but according to the records that immediately follow in this volume, and which are supported by several other testimonies in my possession, she was his great-great-grand-daughter; being the sole daughter and heiress of Morgan, the son of Meryg, the son of Griffith, the fourth son of Iestyn." 3

The third version correlates most closely with the first one; in the second, Morgan is shown as the son of Jestyn (i.e. Iestyn) rather than as his great-grandson.

Sources


1 Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, Chapter 6, KINGS and PRINCES of GLAMORGAN, SOUTH WALES, Asar daughter of Meurug, citing the Gwentian Chronicle (p. 75).

2 Archæologia Cambrensis, The Journal of the Cambrian Archæological Association, Vol. VIII, fourth series, no. XXIX, pp. 1, 7.

3 Iolo Manuscripts. A selection of ancient Welsh manuscripts, in prose and verse, from the collection made by the late Edward Williams, Iolo Morganwg, for the purpose of forming a continuation of the Myfyrian archaeology; and subsequently proposed as materials for a new History of Wales: with English translations and notes, 1848, pp. 391, 399.


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