Research Notes:

2nd but 1st surviving son and heir, was born Michaelmas 1235. His marriage and the custody of his lands were granted to Queen Eleanor during his minority, 26 April 1242; and he did homage therefore between 1 and 15 October 1256, being then of full age. On 15 October also the Earl of Hereford and Essex was ordered to deliver Painscastle to Roger, who held it in chief by knight's service. He had licence for life, 8 December 1256, to hunt with his own dogs the hare, fox, cat and badger in cos. Southampton, Somerset, Dorset and Wilts; was summoned to join the Earl of Hereford in defence of the Welsh marches between Montgomery and Gloucester, July, and had gone to Wales with Edward, the King's son, before 22 October 1257; was among those summoned to meet the King in London with all the service they owed, April 1260; had a protection, crossing with the Queen beyond seas, 1 July 1262; and was summoned to be at Hereford, February 1262/3, for action against Llewellyn. He was living, 10 June 1263, and is said to have supported the King in the Barons' War, but was dead before the battle of Lewes (14 May 1264). ²

Correction to Complete Peerage (Douglas Richardson, 2001):

Alice clearly did marry Roger, and was the mother of his son and heir, Ralph, as shown by the evidence below. The date of "before 1255" for Roger's marriage to Isabel, which is based on the belief that she was Ralph's mother, is therefore also incorrect.

The marriage contract referred to above is printed in The Beauchamp Cartulary Charters 1100-1268, ed E. Mason, p.214 (1980), together with a grant by Humphrey de Bohun to Roger de Tosny, of the manors of Newton (Tony) and (East) Coulston, Wiltshire, in marriage with his daughter Alice (p.216). The manors were given in free marriage to be held by Roger and his heirs by Alice, and were to revert to Humphrey if Alice died without issue. This grant is dated by Mason to probably c.1251, when Roger reached the age of 14.

The previous grant to Queen Eleanor on 26 April 1242, referred to by Complete Peerage, was in fact a grant of the lands only, not of the marriage and land...; it is referred to again as a grant of the lands in a subsequent grant of scutage to Queen Eleanor, on 3 May [Cal. Close Rolls, 1237-42, p.422]. (A later order, dated 12 February 1243/4, does refer to the lands and the marriage of the heir having been granted to the queen, but this is presumably an error [Cal. Close Rolls, 1242-47, p.158].)

The manor of Newton Tony descended to Roger's son Ralph (d.1295) and then to his son Robert [Victoria County History, Wiltshire, vol.15, p.146]. East Coulston passed to Walter de Beauchamp, who married Roger's daughter Alice, and later to their descendants [Victoria County History, Wiltshire, vol.8, p.235].

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• 15 Oct 1256, Westminster

Mandate to William de Sancto Omero and Pernell de Thoeny his wife to restore to Roger de Thony, son and heir of Ralph de Thony, who is of full age and has done homage and to whom the king restored his lands, the charters and other instruments belonging to the said Roger which are in the keeping of the said Pernell.

• 8 Dec 1256, Clarendon

Licence, for life, for Roger de Thony to hunt with his own dogs the hare, the fox, the cat and the badger in the forest in the counties of Southampton, Somerset, Dorset and Wilts.

Calendar of Patent Rolls, Hen. III, vol. 4, pp. 503, 533

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• 15 Mar 1263, Westminster

Ratification of a lease by Roger de Thony to Augustin de Hadestok, citizen of London, his heirs and assigns, of his manor of Welchamstowe, from the morrow of St. Giles, 45 Henry III, until Michaelmas following and four years after.

Calendar of Patent Rolls, Hen. III, vol. 5, p. 252

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• 12 May 1264, Lewes

Grant to Edmund the king's son of the wardship of the castles and lands of Roger de Tony, tenant in chief, with knights' fees, advowsons of churches, dowers when they fall in and all that fall in such wardships, saving to Humphrey de Bohun, earl of Hereford, the marriage of the heirs because the king has granted that to him, and to Isabel late the wife of the said Roger her dower. Grant also to the said Edmund of the marriage of the said Isabel, or the fine which she will make for the same.

Calendar of Patent Rolls, Hen. III, vol. 5, p. 316

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• 8 Aug 1265, Worcester

Grant to Richard de Brus of the wardship of the lands and heirs of Roger de Tony, tenant in chief, which the king first granted to Edmund his son; with knights' fees, wards, reliefs, escheats, dowers when they fall in, advowsons of churches and all other things, and with the marriage of the heirs.

Calendar of Patent Rolls, Hen. III, vol. 5, p. 435