Sir Geoffrey DE SAY, 1st Baron de Say
- Born: Abt 1281, Berling, Kent, England
- Married:
- Died: Shortly before 3 Mar 1321/2, Elsenham Manor, Essex, England
 Research Notes:
He was summoned to parliament 1313/21, whereby he is held to have become Lord Say. 1
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Grant to William de Leyburn of the marriage of the son and heir of William de Say, tenant in chief, to marry him to his daughter Idonia and to no one else.
Mandate to Malcolm de Harlegh, escheator this side Trent, to deliver the body of the said heir to the said William or his attorney.
Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edw. I, vol. 3, p. 179
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To Walter de Glouc[estria], escheator this side Trent. Order to cause Geoffrey de Say, son and heir of William de Say, tenant in chief, to have seisin of the lands whereof his father was seised at his death in his demesne as of fee, as he has proved his age before the king.
Calendar of Close Rolls, 31 Edw. I, p. 10
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Protection with clause volumus, until the Purification, for...William de Leyburn, Geoffrey de Say [and others]...going beyond seas on the king's affairs with Edward, prince of Wales and earl of Chester, the king's son...
Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edw. I, vol. 4, p. 266
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Geoffrey de Say, William de Leyburn, and Ralph de Sandwico acknowledge that they owe to Richard son of Thomas de Weyland, 40l.; to be levied, in default of payment, of their lands and chattels in cos. Kent and Middlesex.
Calendar of Close Rolls, 33 Edw. I, p. 318
- On 23 Aug 1305 it was shown that Philip de Wylcheby alias de Wileby was, at the time of his death, holding a messuage, 84 acres arable, 80 acres wood, 25 acres meadow, and 28s. rent, of Geoffrey de Say in Edelmeton, co. Middlesex, by service of rendering 6s. 9d. yearly and doing suit at Geoffrey's court of Edelmeton every three weeks.... 2
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To the sheriff of Kent. Order to supersede the demand made upon Geoffrey de Say, son and heir of William de Say, tenant in chief, for scutage for the king's army of Scotland in the twenty-eighth year of his reign, as Geoffrey was a minor in the king's wardship from 16 September, in the twenty-third year of the king's reign, upon which day the king caused to be taken into his hands the lands that William held of him by reason of William's death, until 15 February, in the thirty-first year of the reign, upon which day the king took the homage of Geoffrey for the said lands and rendered them to him, as appears by inspection of the rolls of chancery.
The like to the sheriffs of Hertford and Middlesex.
Calendar of Close Rolls, 34 Edw. I, p. 364
Licence for Geoffrey de Say to demise, for life, to John de Drokenesford the manor of Westgrenewich, which he holds in chief.
Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edw. I, vol. 4, p. 448
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Licence for Geoffrey de Say to grant to Fulk Payforer, for the life of the latter, land and rents, to the yearly value of 10l, in the manors of Sabrightesworth, co. Hertford, and Berlynge, co. Kent, held in chief.
Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edw. II, vol. 1, p. 158
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Geoffrey de Say was a witness to a confirmation of a grant in fee, dated at London Wednesday on the morrow of St. Bartholomew 1311, by Katherine daughter of William de Leyburne, deceased, to Gerald de Tastis of Gascony, knight, of all the lands late of Bernard de Securo, and all the lands at Sainte Croix-du-Monte in Gascony, which the late king had granted to Roger de Leyburne her grandfather, and the reversion of which, upon the death of John de Vienna the tenant for life by grant of her father, was bequeathed to her by her father, together with homages, services, customs, rents, and all liberties and free customs, easements and profits pertaining to those lands.
Licence, at the instance of Bartholomew de Badelesmere, for Geoffrey de Say to grant to Walter de Letton, parson of the church of Leyburne, and Martin Hartebaud, vicar of the church of Preston, the manor of Edelmeton, co. Middlesex, held in chief, and for them to regrant the same to the grantor and Juliana de Leyburne and his heirs.
Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edw. II, vol. 1, pp. 387, 400
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To the justices in the eyre in the county of Kent. Order to respite until the quinzaine of Michaelmas all matters touching Juliana de Leyburn, Henry de Leyburn, Geoffrey de Say, Sir Fulk Payforer, and Edmund Gacelyn.
Geoffrey de Say, knight, acknowledges that he owes to Jordan de Longeleie of London, merchant, 62l. 7s. 4d.; to be levied, in default of payment, of his lands and chattels in the county of Kent.
Calendar of Close Rolls, 7 Edw. II, pp. 13, 72
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Geoffrey de Say acknowledges that he owes to John de la Forde of Wrotham, 100l.; to be levied, in default of payment, of his lands and chattels in the county of Kent.
Geoffrey de Say acknowledges that he owes to John de Merkyngfeld, clerk, 200l.; to be levied, in default of payment, of his lands and chattels in the counties of Middlesex, Hertford, and Kent.
Calendar of Close Rolls, 8 Edw. II, pp. 207, 213
To the justices of the bench. Order not to put Robert de Insula in default for his failure to appear before them in the suit between him and Geoffrey de Say concerning the unjust taking and detinue of Robert's cattle, as he was engaged in the king's service on Wednesday the octave of St. Hilary.
Calendar of Close Rolls, 9 Edw. II, p. 297. Re-stated 1 Oct 1316 at York, and 1 Jan 1317, CCR, 10 Edw. II, pp. 472-3, and 6 Sep & 28 Dec 1317, 11 Edw. II, p. 546-7
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Commission to Henry Beaufiz, William de Dene and Waresius de Valoniis to deliver the gaol of the castle of Juliana de Leyburn, Geoffrey de Say, Nicholas de Criel, Thomas Geigg[es], and Philip Pympe, prisoners for receiving Robert Coleman atte Mersh, an outlaw in the county of Kent for divers felonies.
[Commission of oyer and terminer] to John Abel, William de Deen, and Walter de Huntingfeld on complaint by Geoffrey de Say that John del Forthe, John Stephene, Peter le Fevre, Robert del Castel, Bartholomew de Merworthe, and Thomas de Parrok, with others, broke his park at Birlyng, co. Kent.
Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edw. II, vol. 3, pp. 186, 292
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Grant of the king's gift to Geoffrey de Say, in consideration of expenses incurred by him in the service of the late king, of the 168l., which by summons of the Exchequer are required for the time of William de Say his father for the scutages on account of the armies for Wales in the fifth and tenth years of the reign of Edward I.
Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edw. II, vol. 3, p. 395
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Licence for John de Sancto Johanne of Lageham to grant his reversion in his manor of Staunton, co. Oxford, held in chief, which Master Gilbert de Middleton holds for life of his inheritance, to John son of the same John de Sancto Johanne and Katherine, daughter of Geoffrey de Say, to hold to them and the heirs of the body of the said John the son, with reversion failing such issue, to the said John de Sancto Johanne, the father, and his heirs....
Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edw. II, vol. 3, p. 520
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Licence for Geoffrey de Say to enfeoff Geoffrey, parson of the church of Codeham, and William de Torrying, chaplain, of his manor of Westgrenewich, co. Kent, held in chief, and for them to re-grant the manor to the said Geoffrey and Idonia his wife, with remainder to Geoffrey son of the said Geoffrey de Say and the heirs of his body, with like remainders to Roger brother of the said Geoffrey son of Geoffrey, and Ralph brother of the said Roger and remainder over to the right heirs of the said Geoffrey.
Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edw. II, vol. 3, p. 573
- On 6 Nov 1321, Geoffrey de Say was on a commission of oyer and terminer, touching the persons who by order of Bartholomew de Badelesmere held the castle of Ledes, co. Kent, against queen Isabella and the king... (CPR, Edw. II, vol. 4, p. 60)
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Order to the escheator on this side Trent to take into the king's hand the lands late of Geoffrey de Say, deceased, tenant in chief.
Calendar of Fine Rolls, 15 Edw. II, p. 102
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Inquisition Post Mortem
327. Geoffrey de Say
Writ, 3 March, 15 Edward II. [1321/2]
Middlesex. Inq. Saturday after the Annunciation, 15 Edward II.
Edelmetone. The manor (extent given), jointly acquired by the said Geoffrey and Juliana de Leybourne, of William de Lettone and Martin Erchebaud, by fine levied in the king's court, by the king's licence, to hold to them and the heirs of the said Geoffrey, of the king in chief by knight's service.
Geoffrey his son, aged 17 at Whitsunday next, is his next heir.
Hertford. Inq. Thursday the feast of the Annunciation, 15 Edward II.
Sabrichtesworth. The manor (extent given), held of the king in chief by knight's service; from which there are due to Robert de Stanegrave 10l. yearly for life, which the said Geoffrey gave him three years ago without the king's licence.
Heir as above.
Sussex. Inq. Thursday the feast of the Annunciation, 15 Edward II.
Hammes Say. The manor, held jointly by the said Geoffrey and Idonia his wife, by fine levied in the king's court between them and Thomas le Geggt to hold to them and the heirs of the said Geoffrey, of John de Warenne, earl of Surrey, by service of 13½ knight's fees, ½ qr. of corn, 3s. for the enclosure of the earl's park of Cokefeud, and 6d. for the earl's enclosure of Dychenyngh.
Heir as above, aged 18.
Kent. Inq. 12 March, 15 Edward II.
Beirlinge. The manor (extent given), held of the king in chief of the barony of Maminot.
Ewelle by Berlinge. 9a. arable, 6l. rent of assize, 20 hens, &c., acquired by the said Geoffrey to himself, Idonea his wife, and his heirs, and held of the bishop of Rochester by service of 100s.; and a water-mill acquired as above, and held of Sir John de Yfelde of his manor of Reiersshe by service of 16d. yearly rent.
Heir as above, aged 17 at Whitsunday next.
Kent. Inq. 13 March, 15 Edward. II.
Codeham. The manor (extent given), including pasture in the park of Codeham and Bertre, and in Frithe and Bocherst, and a fair at Bertre, held of the king in chief of the barony of Mamimot, service unspecified.
Heir as above.
Kent. Inq. 11 March, 15 Edward. II.
Borgham. The manor (extent given), including pasture called Brokes and Landmed, and customs called 'Gaverleirthe' and 'medselver,' held of the king in chief of the barony of Mamimot.
Heir as above.
Kent. Inq. 14 March, 15 Edward. II.
Westgrenewich. The manor (extent given), held jointly for life by the said Geoffrey and Idonea his wife, by the enfeoffment to them of Geoffrey, parson of Codeham, and William de Terringe, chaplain, by fine levied in the king's court, with remainder to Geoffrey son of the said Geoffrey de Say and the heirs of his body, of the king in chief as parcel of the barony of Maminot.
Heir as above.
C. Edw. II. File 70. (4.) 3
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To Master Walewayn, escheator beyond Trent. Order not to intermeddle further with the manor of Westgrenewyche, the manor of Hammes Say, and 19 acres of land, a water-mill and 6l. of yearly rent in Ewelle, taken into the king's hands by him upon the death of Geoffrey de Say, and to restore the issues thereof, as it appears by inquisition taken by him that Geoffrey and Idonia his wife were jointly enfeoffed of the manor of Westgrenewyche on the day of Geoffrey's death of the enfeoffment of Geoffrey, parson of the church of Codeham, and of William de Terring', chaplain, by fine levied in the king's court without the king's licence, and that the manor is held of the king in chief as parcel of the barony of Maminot, and that Geoffrey and Idonia jointly held the manor of Hammes Say on the said day by fine levied between them and Thomas le Gegg in the king's court in like manner, and that the manor is held of John de Warenna, earl of Surrey, by knight service, and that Geoffrey and Idonia jointly held on the said day 19 acres of land, a water-mill, and 6l. of rent in Ewelle of the bishop of Rochester.
To the same. Like order concerning the manor of Edelmeton, as it appears by inquisition that the aforesaid Geoffrey and Juliana de Leybourne jointly held the said manor on the day of Geoffrey's death of the feoffment of Walter de Leitone and Martin de Erchebaud by fine levied in the king's court with his licence, and that the manor is held of the king in chief by knight's service.
To the same. Order to assign dower to Idonia, late the wife of the said Geoffrey, upon her taking oath not to marry without the king's licence.
Calendar of Close Rolls, 15 Edw. II, p. 431
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Grant to John de Triple, for a fine of 300 marks whereof he will pay 100 marks at the Exchequer of Easter next, Michaelmas following and Easter following, of the wardship of the lands late of Geoffrey de Say, tenant in chief, in the king's hand by reason of the minority of the heir, with the marriage of the same; and if the heir die before his coming of age and marriage, his heir being a minor, John shall have the wardship until the time when he would have been of full age, with the marriage of his said heir.
Calendar of Fine Rolls, 16 Edw. II, pp. 193-4
Marriage Information:
Geoffrey married Idonea DE LEYBOURNE, daughter of Sir William DE LEYBOURNE, 1st Baron Leybourne, and Juliane DE SANDWICH. (Idonea DE LEYBOURNE was born in Leybourne, Malling, Kent, England and died after 14 Nov 1337.)
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