The Annales Stadenses refers to the mother of "Ida [de Elsthorpe]" as "sororis Leonis papa qui et Bruno". The correctness of this parentage of the wife of Liudolf assumes (which appears likely to be correct...) that Ida von Elstorf was his daughter.
The Libro Memoriarum Sancti Blasii records the death in Jul 1077 of "Ghertrudis marchionissa senior". 1