Cte Hugues I DE RÉTHEL
(Abt 1050-1118)
Mélisende DE MONTLHÉRY
(1045-Aft 1097)
Cte Godefroi DE NAMUR et de Château-Porcien
(-1139)
Sibylle DE CHÂTEAU-PORCIEN
(-)
Cte Gervais DE RÉTHEL
(Abt 1079-Bef 1124)
Elisabeth DE NAMUR
(-Aft 1148)
Mélisende DE RETHEL
(Abt 1122-Aft 1154)

 

Family Links

Spouses/Children:
1. Robert III MARMION

  • Robert IV MARMION
2. Richard I DE CAMVILLE

Mélisende DE RETHEL

  • Born: Between 1121 and 1123, Reims, Champagne-Ardenne, France
  • Married (1):
  • Married (2): After 1143
  • Died: After 1154, Stanton (Harcourt), Oxfordshire, England

  Research Notes:

The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that [her stepfather] "Clarenbaldus de Roseto" alienated the lands of "filiastram suam Gervasii filiam" and married her to "cuidam nobili Roberto Marmioni de Normannia", without giving her name. The Complete Peerage names her "Elizabeth" and identifies her husband as Robert Marmion [IV] without citing any primary source on which it bases this statement. From a chronological point of view, it is more likely that the husband of Gervais de Rethel's daughter was Robert Marmion [III], considering especially that Robert [III]'s wife had three known children by her second husband whom she married after Robert died in [1143/44]. If that is correct, other sources confirm that Robert [III]'s wife was named Mélisende, not Elisabeth, presumably after her paternal grandmother. A charter dated to [1200], recounting the history of a donation of land to Eynsham abbey, records that King [Henry I] granted "Stantonam [cum] quadam femina" to "Roberto Marmiun", and that "post Robertum Marmiun" the king granted "predictam Milisent" to "Ricardo de Kamuilla". Domesday Descendants refers to the second marriage of Mélisende, whom it calls "a kinswoman of Queen Adelicia". The Victoria County History of Oxfordshire states that the queen "before 1141...gave to her kinswoman Millicent, wife of Robert Marmion, land in Stanton Harcourt and South Leigh...", without citing the corresponding primary source. White Kennett quotes the charter under which "A...regina" granted "manerium meum de Stanton" in four parts to Reading convent, to the Knights Templars, to "Milisendi cognatæ meæ uxori Roberti Marmium", and to "Willielmo de Harestactu", undated. In light of the previous information, her second marriage is indicated by the charter dated 1154 under which Henry Duke of Normandy [the future King Henry II] confirmed Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire to "Milicenti uxori Ricardi de Camvilla in feodo et hereditate sibi…sicut regina Adelisia…in maritagium dedit" by charter dated 1154. "Ricardus de Camvilla" donated "terciam partem decimarum...apud Hottoth" to Jumièges, for the souls of "uxoris mee Adelicie et sequentis uxoris mee Milesente...Rogeri fratris mei", by charter dated [5 Apr 1170/27 Mar 1171], subscribed by "Ricardi filii mei...". "Philippus de Marmiun filius et hæres Roberti le Marmiun" recalls the donation of "Buteyate" to Bardney made by "Robertus Marmiun…et Milesent uxor mea et Robertus filius meus" by charter dated Jun 1248. 1

  Marriage Information:

Mélisende married Robert III MARMION. (Robert III MARMION was born in Scrivelsby, Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England and died on 8 Sep 1143 in Coventry, Warwickshire, England.)

  Marriage Information:

Mélisende also married Richard I DE CAMVILLE, son of Unknown DE CAMVILLE and Unknown daughter of Aubrey I DE VERE, after 1143. (Richard I DE CAMVILLE was born in Lilbourne Castle, Creek, Northamptonshire, England and died in 1176 in Apulia (Puglia), Calabria, Italy.)

Sources


1 Foundations for Medieval Genealogy, Medlands, Melisende de Rethel.


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