Ives DE CREIL, Seigneur de Bellême, du Saosnais, du Passais et de Sées


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Ives DE CREIL, Seigneur de Bellême, du Saosnais, du Passais et de Sées

  • Born: Creil, Oise, Picardy, France
  • Married:

  General Notes:

Compiler's 32 x great-grandfather

  Research Notes:

Guillaume of Jumièges records that Louis IV King of the West Franks, after the death of Richard’s father, marched on Rouen, was received by “Rodulphus et Bernardus atque Anslech totius Normannici ducatus tutores”, and captured Richard, who was taken to Laon but was freed by “Osmundus...consilio cum Yvone patre Willelmi de Belismo” and taken to “Silvanectis” where “Bernardus...comes” protected “nepotem suum Richardum”. If correctly reported, this event must be dated to [942/43]. Orderic Vitalis reports the same event, recording that "Osmundus, pueri pædagogus, per Ivonem de Credolio, regis balistarium" freed the captive, but makes no connection with Guillaume de Bellême. Le Prévost suggests that “Credolio” in this passage was Creil near Senlis.

Seigneur de Bellême {Mortagne, Orne}, du Saosnais, du Passais et de Sées. "Ivo...in castro meo Bellismo" founded Notre-Dame de Bellême, for the souls of himself "conjugisque mee Godehildis, sive filiis meis vel genitoribus meis", by undated charter. André de Fleury’s Vita Gauzlini records that “Ivo Belesmensis” donated “Magniacum” to Fleury, but that after his death “Willelmus eius filius” reclaimed the property. This passage has been taken in secondary sources as indicating that Ives died after [1005], when Gaucelin became abbot of Fleury. However, it is not evident from the text that Ives made his donation during the abbacy of Gaucelin, rather it may have been the diversion of the property by his son which took place while Gaucelin was abbot. From a chronological point of view, it would be surprising if Ives was still alive in [1005], assuming that the reports of Guillaume de Jumiéges and Orderic Vitalis, quoted above, accurately report his participation in events in [942/43]. 1

  Marriage Information:

Ives married Godehildis.


1 Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, Medlands, Chapter 5. Bishops of Le Mans. Ives [de Creil].

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