Roger DE PÎTRES
(-Bef 1086)
Adelise
(-After 1125)
Walter Fitz Roger DE GLOUCESTER
(-Abt 1129)

 

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Spouses/Children:
Berthe

Walter Fitz Roger DE GLOUCESTER

  • Born: Pitres, Eure, France
  • Died: Abt 1129, Llanthony Abbey, Gloucester, England

   Research Notes:

Domesday Book records land held by “Walter fitsRoger de Pitres” in Barton Stacey in Barton Hundred and East Dean in Broughton Hundred in Hampshire; "Walter FitzRoger" holding Great Barrington and South cerney in Gloucestershire. A charter of King William I dated 1086 confirmed various donations to Gloucester St Peter, including the donation of "in Erchenefelde unam terram Westwode" for the soul of "patris sui".

Sheriff of Gloucester. Constable [of Gloucester Castle]. The Chronicle of Gloucester St Peter records that "Rogerus [presumably an error for Walterus] de Gloucestria" donated "Westwode in Jerchenfeld…" to the monastery for the soul of "Herberti fratris sui" dated 1101. The Historia fundationis cum fundatoris genealogia of the priory of Abergavenny records that “Brientio filio comitis de Insula, nepoti suo de sorore sua…Lucia” granted the lordship of Abergavenny to “Waltero constabulatio totius Angliæ, consanguineo suo”. The precise relationship between Walter and his predecessor has not yet been established. Henry I King of England confirmed the grant of "heredibus suis Herefordiam [parvam et] Ullingeswicam" to "Waltero de Gloec" by the bishop of Hereford by charter dated 1121, witnessed by "…Ricardo filio Poncii…". The Chronicle of Gloucester St Peter records that "Walterus de Gloucestria" donated "terram de Westwode in Jerchenffeld in Lawaran". "Walterus de Gloucestria, assensu Milonis filii mei et Berthæ uxoris meæ" donated "ecclesiam de Cernay…ecclesiam… Sanctæ Helenæ de Halgestane…terram…de Westwode in Herchenefelde" to Gloucester St Peter by undated charter. Henry I King of England granted the lands of "Edrici fil Chetelli" to "Walto de Gloec" by charter date [3/10] Jun 1123. A charter dated to [1123] records that "Walt de Gloec" gave Little Hereford in fee to "Willo de Mara nepoti suo". "Walter de Gloecestria, Milo fili ei…Willelm de Mara" witnessed the charter dated to [1127] which records that "Ricard Puncii filii" granted Aston, Gloucestershire ("Hestoniam") to "Mathilli uxori mee" 1

   Marriage Information:

Walter married Berthe. (Berthe was born est 1070 in Frampton-on-Severn, Wheatenhurst, Gloucestershire, England and died before 1091.)

   Marriage Notes:

"Walterus de Gloucestria, assensu Milonis filii mei et Berthæ uxoris meæ" donated "ecclesiam de Cernay…ecclesiam… Sanctæ Helenæ de Halgestane…terram…de Westwode in Herchenefelde" to Gloucester St Peter by undated charter. The Complete Peerage suggests that Berthe was a relative of Hamelin de Ballon Lord of Abergavenny, citing the passage from the Historia fundationis cum fundatoris genealogia of the priory of Abergavenny quoted above. However, there are two difficulties with this hypothesis. Firstly, it is Walter, not his son, who is described as “consanguineo” of Brien FitzCount, suggesting that the relationship must have been through Walter’s parents not his wife. Secondly, doubt exists about the relationship between Brien FitzCount (generally identified as the illegitimate son of Alain IV Duke of Brittany, although the primary source which confirms that this affiliation is correct has not yet been traced) and Hamelin de Ballon... The Complete Peerage also cites the undated charter under which “Willielmus de Braosa” confirmed donations to Abergavenny Priory by “Hamelinus de Balon et Brientius comitis filius et Walterus de Herefort et Henricus de Herefort”. This document does suggest a close relationship between the two families. However, a family connection through the mother of Miles of Gloucester is not the only possibility. 2

Sources


1 Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#_ftnref321.

2 Ibid.


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