Guy III DE FOREZ Count of Forez
(-Bef 1222)
Guy IV DE FOREZ Count of Forez


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1. Philippa (Mathilde) DE DAMPIERRE

2. Mathilde DE COURTENAY Countess of Nevers, Auxerre & Tonnerre

Guy IV DE FOREZ Count of Forez

  • Married (1): 1216
  • Married (2): Jul 1226
  • Died: 29 Oct 1241, Castellaneta, Apulia

   Research Notes:

"Patris mei et nepos meus Guigo et sorores eius Guigona et Marquissa et uxor fratris mei Adaladix comitissa" consented to the charter dated Dec 1203 under which "R…Lugdunensis ecclesiæ archiepiscopus" donated property to Cluny, as instructed by "Guidonis fratris mei comitis Forensis" who had assigned "comitatum Forensem in manu mea nomine tutelæ liberorum ipsius, nepotum meorum", to found an anniversary for his brother. His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated Mar [1241/42] under which “Guillermus de Bafes miles” recorded his agreement with “Guiodum de Foreis” which names “comes Guido de Foreis, defunctus, avus meus…ex parte prime uxoris sue legittime, que fuit mater matris mee” and adds that Guy [III] Comte de Forez was also father of “comes Guido de Nevers, pater dicti Guidi” by his second wife married during the lifetime of his first wife.

Comte de Forez. "Raynaudus…primæ Lugdunensis ecclesiæ minister" founded an anniversary for "fratris nostri Guigonis comitis Foresii…qui sepultus fuit apud Accon in ecclesia Hospitalis", with the consent of "Guigonis nepotis nostri", by charter dated 1215 which names "Guigo comes pater noster". “Rainaudus et Hulricus, fratres, filii quondam vicecomitis Matisconensis” granted property “quicquid habebant ultra Ligerim…Croset” to “Guigoni comiti Forisiensi nepoti nostro” by charter dated Oct 1220. "Comes Forensis Guigo" donated property to the abbey of Bénissons Dieu, for the soul of "Alasiæ matris meæ bonæ memoriæ", by charter dated 21 Aug 1222. "Guigo comes Forensis" founded the church of Notre-Dame de l’Espérance de Montbrison by charter dated 1223.

He succeeded as Comte de Nevers in 1226, by right of his wife. William of Tyre (Continuator) names "le conte de Fores qui estoit cuens de Nevers de par sa feme" among those who took part in the crusade from France which landed at Acre in 1239.

He died while returning from Crusade with Thibaut King of Navarre, Comte de Champagne. The testament of "comes Nivernensis et Forensis" is dated 1239, before leaving on crusade, and names "Guigonem filium meum primogenitum…Raynaldum alium meum" (adding that he wished the latter to enter the church).

   Marriage Information:

Guy married Philippa (Mathilde) DE DAMPIERRE, daughter of Guy II DE DAMPIERRE Seigneur de Bourbon et de Montlucon and Mathilde DE BOURBON, in 1216. (Philippa (Mathilde) DE DAMPIERRE died in 1223.)

   Marriage Information:

Guy also married Mathilde DE COURTENAY Countess of Nevers, Auxerre & Tonnerre, daughter of Pierre II DE COURTENAY Emperor of Constantinople, Comte de Courtenay and Agnès DE NEVERS Countess, in Jul 1226. (Mathilde DE COURTENAY Countess of Nevers, Auxerre & Tonnerre was born about 1188 and died on 29 Jul 1257.)

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